Fine motor skills
Actually, this is the term, meaning the ability to make small precise movements, as opposed to gross motor skills, which are bigger movements. [1]. He wasn't saying they were fine as opposed to lousy. :) The term "motor skills" appears elsewhere separately, but here it refers specifically to this sub-type of motor skills. --LauraCC (talk) 16:28, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
- Okay. The only reason I changed the link was because I realized there's much more on-screen references to "motor skills" than to "fine motor skills". I guess it was the wrong choice; sorry. :( --Defiant (talk) 18:19, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
It's all right. Easily changed back. Possibly the two do belong on the same page, with the latter as a redirect. --LauraCC (talk) 18:20, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Re - "Emissary" reference
Thank you. I wondered why it showed up on another episode entirely. --LauraCC (talk) 16:41, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
- Lol. You're welcome --Defiant (talk) 18:02, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
So can we add that to Rom's jobs in his character sidebar? Or was this role only suggested but never seen per se? --LauraCC (talk) 16:58, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- No idea; sorry. --Defiant (talk) 17:01, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
"Earth" link
To distinguish between Earth's 18th century and another planet's. He said "your" as opposed to 18th century Vulcan or any other planet, for that matter. --LauraCC (talk) 18:18, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- Better to cite who he's actually talking to, I think, especially as no inference to a planet was made (you're just assuming it). Heck, for all we know, there may have been Human colonies from the future residing elsewhere in space that also included swashbucklers. --Defiant (talk) 18:26, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Ouch. Nice parry. ;) --LauraCC (talk) 18:28, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- Lol. Thanks. --Defiant (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- ...and to answer your question, no: there are not (yet) any images of Kevin Riley singing "...Kathleen". --Defiant (talk) 18:43, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Cerium?
Not sure if you'd seen it yet, but regarding this deletion discussion, your Devil in the Dark script might be helpful in confirming the right spelling. -- Capricorn (talk) 19:38, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Alt E-A
Going to need an answer to this. - Archduk3 16:29, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Denobulan article
I'm not sure of the meaning of your reversion summary - the meaning of the sentence wasn't changed at all - but I'm simply changing a stylistically poor passive construction to something that isn't half-gibberish to readers, some of whom may not have English as a first language. If you need more detail on what "passive" means in this context, I'm happy to explain further. NokiaTouchscreen (talk) 02:40, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- I disagree it's "a stylistically poor passive construction" and "half-gibberish to readers." That's your subjective opinion and it seems like you're trying to force it on the community. I've reverted the edit to retain its relevancy to the Denobulans, as I already said in the edit summary (which it's actually called, not "reversion summary"). --Defiant (talk) 08:22, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
"Where No Man" question
Is the term "reader screen (links)" from the script? --LauraCC (talk) 17:41, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- Not sure, and I don't really have time to research that. The script's online here, though: [2] --Defiant (talk) 17:46, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Which draft is it? --LauraCC (talk) 17:52, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- ?? Can't you access the link? It says it's a revised final draft. --Defiant (talk) 17:53, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry. I don't know where my mind is. --LauraCC (talk) 17:55, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- Lol. It's okay. --Defiant (talk) 17:57, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Just thought you'd like to know - from what I could tell, only the term "library-computer screen" is used. --LauraCC (talk) 18:06, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Candelabra
Sorry, should have clarified that it's seen
here (top right). Does the script name it as such? --LauraCC (talk) 20:41, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- It doesn't refer to it at all. The first line of dialogue (Scott's) isn't in the script either, and the first mention of Rand is to say she is opening a book for Kirk on the podium. The book's shown on-screen, but I don't think her opening it is shown. --Defiant (talk) 20:45, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
I guess naming it what I did is a common sense call, then. --LauraCC (talk) 20:47, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- Indeed. Btw, I'm sorry, but the info I gave you is slightly incorrect; the mention of the book-opening is the second reference to Rand in the script. In the first instance, the script states, "The bride, ANGELA MARTINE, has stepped into the doorway, followed by her Bridesmaid. She gets a kiss on the cheek from Yeoman JANICE RAND... an air of radiant happiness in the room, contrasting with Kirk's puzzled concern." But yeah, you're right, re: candelabra. --Defiant (talk) 20:51, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Oh, and caught another reference for you- master. Kirk says, "Since the days of the first wooden vessels, all shipmasters have had one happy privilege. That of uniting two people in the bonds of matrimony." --LauraCC (talk) 20:53, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. :) --Defiant (talk) 21:09, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Made the article. Though a zoomed in pic of her lighting it might be better? --LauraCC (talk) 21:17, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- There's a good shot of her doing so when Kirk first stands on the platform. And the same shot also shows the book. --Defiant (talk) 21:22, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Mark Lenard in "Journey to Babel"
Undo of my edit, that Mark Lenard played a Romulan commander before the role of Sarek
Undo comment: "-a badly fm note the type of which we don't list on episode pages, as it's much more suitable for the page about the actor"
Hey come on...this is very interesting info! And the right place is in the "Cast" section of this episode's article. There is much more trivial stuff in other "Cast" sections for other episodes and a lot of other info which is far less important – e.g., I do not really care if a costume is re-used from another episode, but if a main actor played another (major) role in a previous season episode, it is important!)
When I, as a fan, read the background info for this episode, I would be thankful if someone gave a hint that Sarek played the Romulan Commander in "Balance of Terror". If I want more info, I go to the page about the actor.
That's why I made this edit. (77.119.128.60 21:37, 14 October 2016 (UTC))
- Sorry, but I would ordinarily agree with you, if this hadn't already been decided on by community consensus a long time ago. So, you're really addressing the wrong person about this issue. If you really feel strongly about this, you should probably address the community in general about it, in the forum. --Defiant (talk) 22:35, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Zora and beach location
The old fan favorite discussion topic if Zora was a Tiburonian has been brought up on a talk page again. However, nowadays the script is available for inspection. So I was wondering, is Zora identified as a Tiburionian in the script (of The Savage Curtain), or otherwise made clear to be one? -- Capricorn (talk) 17:49, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Undaunted by the fact that you haven't answered that question, I have another :p. Does the script of "Inside Man" specify where Troi was vacationing? -- Capricorn (talk) 19:12, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- Was just looking that up. The script does seem to give her vacation location, as a "beach"... somewhere. Precisely where isn't (or at least doesn't seem to be) specified, though. --Defiant (talk) 19:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Too bad. William T. Riker puzzlingly places it at Pebble Beach, I was hoping there was a basis for that. A big thanks anyway for checking. I don't suppose you know anything about Zora yet? -- Capricorn (talk) 20:07, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- It is Pebble Beach. I thought you'd know that, as it's actually said in the episode! --Defiant (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Euh, Pebble beach is mentioned in the episode, but in a completely different context – the Doctor wants to take Reg golfing there on the holodeck. Am I wrong? -- Capricorn (talk) 23:13, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ah. Yeah, you're right. Well spotted. Sorry for getting it wrong. It's been ages since I watched that episode! --Defiant (talk) 00:07, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Too bad, I was really hoping that it was me that brainfarted and not you - then we'd have the location, which given the controvercy over if it was Risa would have been really nice. -- Capricorn (talk) 00:16, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Afraid not, but I can confirm that, in the final draft script of "The Savage Curtain", Zora is identified as a "Tiburon". --Defiant (talk) 00:21, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Holy crap, that's huge. A big big thanks for that.
Hey, by the way, I did see your forum post a while back where you offered to share your (utterly amazing) script collection with other users, but I figured I wasn't involved in this stuff often enough to justify access. But still, I have been asking you for script details every once in a while, and I'm wondering: would you rather prefer that I keep asking you whenever something comes up, or would you rather not be bothered and allow me access to those scripts? Back then I figured you would be very selective in not just giving anyone the scripts, so I didn't apply. (I mean, obviously I'm drooling over those scripts, but I take your project very seriously so I wouldn't want access just for my personal enjoyment). But really I ought to have asked you whatever you prefer. Maybe you think it's a pain that I keep asking you these questions. -- Capricorn (talk) 00:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- No, I enjoy answering questions. But I won't allow anyone else to access the script archive; have changed my mind about that. It's totally nothing personal, however. --Defiant (talk) 01:00, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I completely understand. Incidently, here's another question :p -- Capricorn (talk) 01:08, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Identification
Hi Defiant. Since you seems know Star Trek very well I have request to you.
Sometime TV series have common performers. I'm trying identify some Unknown Stargate Actors.
Do you know some of these?
I will be glad if you will recognize any of them. Thanks in advance! --Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 08:56, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- No idea. I'm not very good at that sort of thing. --Defiant (talk) 09:56, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for answer. --Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 11:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Fibonan High council
Why did you revert my wording for the Abronath link? I've seen this done before on other pages (describing something without calling it by name). When Kirk offered it up to the Teenaxi, it was only stated to be an ancient weapon; presumably Kirk didn't know the name or he would have used it). So calling it that on a page whose entry is only about that time makes sense. --LauraCC (talk) 18:36, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
I've wondered if you did that to revert another change on the page and it got caught up in the mix by accident... --LauraCC (talk) 20:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- No, it's just a personal choice I made; it's personal writing choice whether to call it "artifact" or "Abronath". --Defiant (talk) 20:09, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Oh, okay. --LauraCC (talk) 20:10, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
"This is not an image gallery"
Hey Defiant, I've been contributing here for almost ten years, I do realize that articles are not image galleries, thanks. Why didn't you just simply remove the photo and say there were too many images? I would have understood. --Delta2373 (talk) 10:17, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ummm... I did. Goodbye --Defiant (talk) 10:26, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Yes, you sure did... It was the way you worded the removal that bothered me. Goodbye. --Delta2373 (talk) 10:54, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- Maybe you shouldn't be so easily bothered, then. As it says in this website's policies and guidelines, assume good faith. :) --Defiant (talk) 11:25, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Canamar question
This line by Kuroda Lor-ehn - "A supervisor accused me of stealing a brace of latinum". Did Chakoteya transcribe that faithfully? If so, wanted to make a page for "brace" as a unit of measurement. Also, see my earlier question re Beyond (#12 on the list now). --LauraCC (talk) 18:02, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- That transcript's accurate. --Defiant (talk) 18:43, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. --LauraCC (talk) 18:44, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
2265?
IS there a source that firmly establishes when the El-Aurian HW was assimilated?--Marhawkman (talk) 18:16, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
- Try asking this question @ Trek BBS. You'd be more likely to have your question noticed by many people that way. --LauraCC (talk) 15:28, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. I've been busy trying to get well from a long-lasting cold. There doesn't seem to be any source for the 2265 date. --Defiant (talk) 16:06, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Since you're working on Beyond characters...
I don't suppose you located Tyvanna among the artwork? --LauraCC (talk) 20:58, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Unfortunately not. There are a few unnamed aliens, though, such as this one: [3] --Defiant (talk) 21:24, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Wow, did a bit of searching (which I thought would be fruitless, so asked you first), and this is the actress in costume. :) [4] Didn't think it would be that easy. --LauraCC (talk) 21:33, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Cool! --Defiant (talk) 21:38, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Apparently an Enterprise crew member...[5] --LauraCC (talk) 21:56, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Amazing. Thanks. Just managed to obtain both that issue and the previous one. Her character's featured on the cover of the previous issue, which also gives details about some of the other specific aliens. --Defiant (talk) 22:37, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Glad I could be of assistance. :) I also found this image of Carlo Ancelotti's role in the film. [6] --LauraCC (talk) 15:30, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Cool! :) --Defiant (talk) 16:11, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
I didn't add the image to MA 'cause I don't know who owns what (for citing it). --LauraCC (talk) 16:16, 30 December 2016 (UTC) So is it 50 or 56 new races? SFX says 50 (one for each year of Trek) [7] while one of those magazine covers says 56. --LauraCC (talk) 21:06, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- I've kept hearing, from various sources, that it's over 50. Prosthetics is the first time I've noticed it given a precise over-50 number. --Defiant (talk) 21:11, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
If technically, Krall, Kalara, and Manas, as physiological amalgams of all the races whose life forces they take, are not new species but hybrids...--LauraCC (talk) 21:13, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- ...which is how they've been referred to by the production team. --Defiant (talk) 21:16, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Then that's 3 fewer, which leaves 53. --LauraCC (talk) 21:18, 30 December 2016 (UTC) The green-faced webbed ear kid (played by Justin Lin's son, supposedly) is not an Orion, is he? --LauraCC (talk) 21:19, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Don't take my word for it (as I'm not completely sure), but I think that possibility's been outruled. I still think the official number is 56, as that figure comes from Joel Harlow. Btw, both articles from the Prosthetics magazine can be read at Trekcore. Thought you might like to know that if you didn't already. --Defiant (talk) 21:23, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
I didn't. Just looked. Kid isn't pictured. --LauraCC (talk) 21:50, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- No, but the number 56 is talked about in the interview. --Defiant (talk) 22:01, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- I initially thought there was only 1 pink-skinned female alien in a command division uniform. But there are actually 2, one of whom is Tyvanna, and the other is on the cover of issue 4 of Prosthetics. Sorry for the mix-up. --Defiant (talk) 22:52, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
S'alright. I didn't act on it. No worries. :) --LauraCC (talk) 14:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Check this article out: [8]
In particular:
--LauraCC (talk) 18:38, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
So then there will be species names available to MA for article naming - stay posted...:)--LauraCC (talk) 15:57, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Kirk's make up
Does the script for "The Enemy Within" call evil Kirk's face make-up "foundation" or "concealer", or anything like that? --LauraCC (talk) 17:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
And how does "Trials and Tribble-ations" describe Jadzia Dax's spot-hiding makeup, if at all? --LauraCC (talk) 17:50, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ever seen this site? It includes a lot of great scripts, including the "Trials and Tribble-ations" one: [9] --Defiant (talk) 21:06, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- As for Kirk's face make-up, the script calls it "medicated skin cream". --Defiant (talk) 21:41, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Ah. Thanks. And yes, I do know that site. I just asked about T and T here because it was the same topic (make-up stuff). --LauraCC (talk) 19:20, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
BTW, the link for Trials and Tribble-ations on Stminutiae actually links to the script of "The Assignment" instead. --LauraCC (talk) 17:31, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, I know, but the link for that episode links to "Trials and Tribble-ations". So, use your powers of reasoning and you'll get there eventually. --Defiant (talk) 01:13, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
That's annoying...thanks. :) Phooey, I really wish they'd given that sprayer a proper name. Something like "cosmetic atomizer"... --LauraCC (talk) 16:28, 10 January 2017 (UTC) How does the script describe him putting on the "cream"? --LauraCC (talk) 19:47, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Name of ship type
See Talk:Tanker. --LauraCC (talk) 20:33, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Rhylo spelling
See Talk:Rhylo. Realize it's a few years old but now I wonder...--LauraCC (talk) 21:14, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- It's "Rhylo" in the script. --Defiant (talk) 21:45, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Ah. Great. Guessing the asker went by a caption? --LauraCC (talk) 18:47, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
I sent you an email. Can you please reply? --NetSpiker (talk) 00:19, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Request for feedback
I'd be very grateful for your opinion on the current Featured Article nomination (Bajoran history). --36ophiuchi (talk) 14:07, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Melora first draft script
According to the Melora Pazlar article, her surname was Opree in the first draft script. Was her first name still Melora or did she have a different first name?
According to the Melora (episode) article, Fallit Kot was originally called Megsy Del, but the Fallit Kot article uses the spelling Megzie Del. Which is the correct spelling? --NetSpiker (talk) 02:27, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- 1. Yes (as the episode didn't have an alternative working title, at least not in the scripting script, anyway). 2. "Megzie". --Defiant (talk) 09:11, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. --NetSpiker (talk) 10:09, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Kinda an off-topic question
I saw you say on your user page that the first draft of 11001010 can be found online. Can I ask where? -- Capricorn (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
- Sure: http://www.roddenberry.com/tng30/ --Defiant (talk) 23:01, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Wow, I didn't know about that page. Thanks. -- Capricorn (talk) 05:07, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- No problem; you're welcome. :) --Defiant (talk) 16:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Do these names come from the script?
I'm not sure where these names originally came from. They definitely weren't mentioned in dialogue or in the credits. Can you check the scripts for me when you have some spare time?
Kray – check Ex Post Facto script
Pet'r Durst – check Cathexis script
Mariah Henley – check Learning Curve script
Nogami – check The 37's script
Strickler (Admiral) – check Non Sequitur script
Corin – check Innocence script
The Spectre – check The Thaw script
Eliann – check Favorite Son script
Lyris – check Favorite Son script
Rinna – check Favorite Son script
Mary Kim – check Favorite Son script and Author, Author script
Lumas - check Day of Honor script
Moklor – check Day of Honor script
Dejaren – check Revulsion script
Alzen – check Scientific Method script
Takar – check Scientific Method script
Nevala – check Message in a Bottle script
Idrin – check Message in a Bottle script and Hunters script
Daelen – check Vis a Vis script
Ven – check Infinite Regress script
Renlay Sharr – check Latent Image script
Y'Sek – check Think Tank script
Saowin – check Think Tank script
Dremk – check Juggernaut script
Abbot – check Someone to Watch Over Me script
Gerald Moss – check 11:59 script
Phlox (Hierarchy) – check Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy script
Peter Harkins – check Pathfinder script and Inside Man script
Abarca – check Virtuoso script
Zar – check Live Fast and Prosper script
Lanya – check Muse script
Jero – check Muse script
Tanis – check Muse script
Olandra Jor – check Repression script
Jye (species) – check Critical Care script
Yeggie – check Inside Man script
Weiss – check Flesh and Blood script
Loquar – check The Void script
Katanay – check Author, Author script
John Kim – check Author, Author script
Brin – check Friendship One script
Hendricks – check Friendship One script
Miral Paris – check Endgame script
Elizabeth Cutler – check Strange New World script
Thon – check The Andorian Incident script
Mary Reed – check Silent Enemy script
Stuart Reed – check Silent Enemy script
Traeg – check Shadows of P'Jem script
Shiraht – check Rogue Planet script
Maya – check Oasis script
Ezral – check Oasis script
J. Kelly – check Vox Sola script
Raan – check Shockwave, Part II script
Firek Goff – check Precious Cargo script
Firek Plinn – check Precious Cargo script
Renth – check The Catwalk script --NetSpiker (talk) 10:55, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- I've checked the Voyager instances. Here are the results:
Kray – check Ex Post Facto script (yes)
Peter Durst – check Cathexis script (no, but might be in Faces script)
Mariah Henley – check Learning Curve script (yes)
Nogami – check The 37's script (yes)
Strickler (Admiral) – check Non Sequitur script (yes)
Corin – check Innocence script (yes)
The Spectre – check The Thaw script (yes)
Eliann – check Favorite Son script (yes)
Lyris – check Favorite Son script (yes)
Rinna – check Favorite Son script (yes)
Mary Kim – check Favorite Son script and Author, Author script (the latter only)
Lumas - check Day of Honor script (yes)
Moklor – check Day of Honor script (yes)
Dejaren – check Revulsion script (yes)
Alzen – check Scientific Method script (yes)
Takar – check Scientific Method script (yes)
Nevala – check Message in a Bottle script (not available)
Idrin – check Message in a Bottle script and Hunters script (former isn't available; name isn't mentioned in latter)
Daelen – check Vis a Vis script (not available)
Ven – check Infinite Regress script (not available)
Renlay Sharr – check Latent Image script (not available)
Y'Sek – check Think Tank script (yes, mentioned in scripted dialogue)
Saowin – check Think Tank script (yes)
Dremk – check Juggernaut script (not available)
Abbot – check Someone to Watch Over Me script (never clarifies that this is his name, but he is referred to as "The Abbot", used as a title)
Gerald Moss – check 11:59 script (yes, mentioned in scripted dialogue and apparently name appears written on-screen, according to the script)
Phlox (Hierarchy) – check Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy script (yes)
Peter Harkins – check Pathfinder script and Inside Man script (yes, in former script, whereas latter script just calls him "Pete" Harkins)
Abarca – check Virtuoso script (yes)
Zar – check Live Fast and Prosper script (yes)
Lanya – check Muse script (no; calls her "Layna")
Jero – check Muse script (yes)
Tanis – check Muse script (yes)
Olandra Jor – check Repression script (yes)
Jye (species) – check Critical Care script (yes)
Yeggie – check Inside Man script (yes)
Weiss – check Flesh and Blood script (yes)
Loquar – check The Void script (yes)
Katanay – check Author, Author script (yes)
John Kim – check Author, Author script (yes)
Brin – check Friendship One script (yes)
Hendricks – check Friendship One script (yes)
Miral Paris – check Endgame script (yes)
- I'll try to do the ENT ones soon too. --Defiant (talk) 12:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I wasn't expecting such a prompt reply. Very much appreciated. --NetSpiker (talk) 13:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- No problem, as they're quite easy to check. Here are the ENT results:
Elizabeth Cutler – check Strange New World script (yes)
Thon – check The Andorian Incident script (yes)
Mary Reed – check Silent Enemy script (her first name is given in the script... but her surname technically isn't established)
Stuart Reed – check Silent Enemy script (his first name is given in the script... but his surname technically isn't established)
Traeg – check Shadows of P'Jem script (yes)
Shiraht – check Rogue Planet script (yes)
Maya – check Oasis script (yes)
Ezral – check Oasis script (yes)
J. Kelly – check Vox Sola script (surname is given in the script, but not first initial "J.", which might be on her uniform)
Raan – check Shockwave, Part II script (yes)
Firek Goff – check Precious Cargo script (yes)
Firek Plinn – check Precious Cargo script (yes)
Renth – check The Catwalk script (yes)
- I hope that helps. --Defiant (talk) 13:12, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Can you please check these names too?
- Kessick - check The Xindi script
- Indava - check Chosen Realm script
- Jareb - check Chosen Realm script
- Erika Hernandez - check Home, Affliction and Divergence scripts - the article doesn't specify which script her first name is from
- Arik Soong - check Borderland, Cold Station 12 and The Augments scripts
- Magh - check The Augments script
- Valdore - check Babel One and United scripts
- Marab - check Affliction and Divergence scripts
- Maras - check Bound script
- Gannet Brooks - check Demons and Terra Prime scripts
- Thoris - check Terra Prime script --NetSpiker (talk) 07:03, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, NetSpiker. Here are the results:
- Kessick - check The Xindi script (yes)
- Indava - check Chosen Realm script (yes)
- Jareb - check Chosen Realm script (yes)
- Erika Hernandez - check Home, Affliction and Divergence scripts - the article doesn't specify which script her first name is from (it's used in the Home and Affliction scripts but not in the Divergence script)
- Arik Soong - check Borderland, Cold Station 12 and The Augments scripts (first name used in Borderland and Cold Station 12 scripts but not the script for The Augments)
- Magh - check The Augments script (yes)
- Valdore - check Babel One and United scripts (yes; in both)
- Marab - check Affliction and Divergence scripts (yes; in both)
- Maras - check Bound script (yes)
- Gannet Brooks - check Demons and Terra Prime scripts (just in Demons script, not Terra Prime script)
- Thoris - check Terra Prime script (yes)
- It's been good to confirm all these names are accounted for, so thanks for putting me up to the task. :) --Defiant (talk) 07:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Quadrotriticale sample
Does the script for "The Trouble with Tribbles" give a name to this gold pouch thing? "Pouch", "packet", "sample bag", etc...? --LauraCC (talk) 21:14, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Better yet: "He pulls a sample of the grain out of a container." I think pouch is what it really it. --Alan del Beccio (talk) 21:44, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
What about later when he gives it to Chekov? Does it use a different word? --LauraCC (talk) 21:46, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
Script spelling question
I probably should have asked you before creating the article, but from the Voyager episode "Nemesis" I've created the article Foot-fall - and I suppose there's a few ways that that could be spelled, wondering if you could check what the correct one is. The term is used several times. -- Capricorn (talk) 19:29, 16 April 2017 (UTC) Also, neck-strapping (which isn't literally used in the ep, only "neck-strapped") -- Capricorn (talk) 21:00, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- In the script, the terms are formatted "footfalls" and "neck-strapped". --Defiant (talk) 14:39, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! -- Capricorn (talk) 15:10, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
Talk:Inflatable starship decoy
What is this called in the script for TAS: "The Practical Joker", aside from the two mentions of "balloon" in the dialog? Noticed you have that script. --LauraCC (talk) 19:47, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Well, the word "decoy" doesn't appear in the script which I have at all. Instead, that script (the 1st draft) seems to mostly refer to it as a "balloon", in line with the on-screen dialogue. --Defiant (talk) 22:25, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
How is the balloon introduced, in context? --LauraCC (talk) 15:38, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Talk:Mavig
Do you have any insight on this? --LauraCC (talk) 16:11, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- Yes. Although Mavig doesn't seem to be mentioned in this script, she was in the 2nd revised final draft script of "The Way to Eden" (which was also released by Roddenberry.com for the 50th, last year). --Defiant (talk) 16:26, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
No name for the other girl? --LauraCC (talk) 16:28, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, what? --Defiant (talk) 16:29, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
The blonde never gets a name assigned to her? --LauraCC (talk) 16:30, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- She doesn't seem to, no. The script's character list includes "ONE GIRL (EXTRA)", which I think could be about her but I'm not entirely sure. Btw, can you please email defiantmemoryalpha@yahoo.com? --Defiant (talk) 16:36, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
To add me to contacts? Okay. --LauraCC (talk) 16:38, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
A possibly personal question
Hey, I don't know if your comfortable answering this question, I understand if you aren't, but I'm going to ask anyone because I'm interested in hearing in the answer (but I'm still find with you not answering), what joke was it that caused you to lose your administratorship? --BepisandCheese (talk) 00:26, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- It was this (entirely meant in jest, but I can see now how it could have been misunderstood). --Defiant (talk) 07:08, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Francesca Brighty
Don't know if you've seen this yet. --LauraCC (talk) 16:51, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Klingon metagen
I learned from the Star Trek Encyclopedia, 4th ed., vol. 1, p. 430 that, in the script for "Divergence", genetically modified Klingons were referred to as "Metagenic Klingons" and "Metagens". Can you confirm this?--Memphis77 (talk) 04:35, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
- I can confirm that's not true in the script I have for "Divergence", which is the post-production version of the final draft. However, it might have been true in an earlier draft. --Defiant (talk) 06:29, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Question
See here, Is this language named in the script? --LauraCC (talk) 15:07, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Can you give your opinion on this discussion?
Talk:Pitcairn --NetSpiker (talk) 13:39, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
Breen two-parter
Hi, the information about a possible Breen-two parter you added to USS Intrepid cites a document from twitter, but this document only mentions a starship "Indiana", not the Intrepid. What is your source for the name Intrepid in that abandoned story (and can it be cited)? Kennelly (talk) 10:13, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
- You're right! This was mistaken info; the write-up in the Undeveloped Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes page kept referring to the ship as the Intrepid mistakenly, and I got mixed up by that. I've recently corrected those offputting references to consistently say "Indiana" instead. However, I must have forgotten to clean up the Intrepid page afterwards. Sorry. --Defiant (talk) 10:18, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Yet another script question
I'm fact checking something, and all hinges on a fragment of the Day of the Dove first draft script that is floating around at various places on the internet, including right here. But these fragments all seem copied from each other, and nowhere is it stated where they come from, so it seems safer to double check with a trusted authority on Star Trek scripts. It's particularly the "Fifty years" line that I'm interested in confirming is really in the script. Would it be possible for you to look into this? -- Capricorn (talk) 04:23, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, it's from the first draft, pg. 13, dated 19 August 1968, word-for-word as contributor post at the MA-link noted. They were rewritten with only a portion of first draft reside spoken in the episode, as taken from the same timeing in the script, McCoy: "Chekov may be right. The Klingons claim to have honored the truce, but there have been incidents, raids on our outposts." --Alan del Beccio (talk) 04:32, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, that's of great help. -- Capricorn (talk) 05:56, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't manage to get to this. I was suddenly hospitalized and have been busy dealing with some quite serious health matters (I'm now on the mend, though). It's great you guys managed to sort out this script issue between you. --Defiant (talk) 12:29, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to hear that. I really wish you the best with your recovery. -- Capricorn (talk) 19:45, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you. --Defiant (talk) 20:35, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
1928
Please see my edit to Talk:1928. --36ophiuchi (talk) 12:13, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, but what?! You don't state context. --Defiant (talk) 12:15, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Sorry 'bout that. It is about your revision of my recent edits to the article 1928, where I moved info about holodeck-recreation from the "events" section to the "notes" section. --36ophiuchi (talk) 12:36, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying. I admit I'm not really all that used to using "year" pages, but looking at some of the other ones (such as 1930), the "Notes" section seems reserved for non-canon info. If the "Notes" section is used for holographic info instead, how do you propose we differentiate that from the placement of bginfo? --Defiant (talk) 12:45, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Well, theoretically, the "Notes" sections should then be called "Apocrypha"; any background info should go in a section called "Background information". Then there could be new "Notes" section containing stuff like holographic recreations... It will be necessary to sift through all the year articles in order to standardize them I guess. --36ophiuchi (talk) 23:02, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
PS: Right now, articles are inconsistent. E.g., 1940 includes holodeck infos in "Events", whereas 1944 has it in the "Notes" section. --36ophiuchi (talk) 10:54, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- I agree; they need to be formatted consistently, regarding sections. --Defiant (talk) 10:59, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- "History" (stuff that happened in real 1928) and "Fiction" (stuff that happened in a fake 1928 setting)? We could also differentiate where they occurred. So we could have "Alpha Quadrant" ("Earth" and other locations as sub-headings), "Delta Quadrant" ("Voyager" and DQ planets) and "Unknown". --LauraCC (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- I suspect a lot of the year pages have too few entries to contain quite so much categorization, but I can kind of accept what you're saying. I think 2 notes or more would warrant a location (sub)heading. I do like your "History" and "Fiction" headings suggestion, though. --Defiant (talk) 15:47, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Redirect
As the person who goofed with this I'm curious, why the recreation of Ward (law) as a redirect? Nothing links to it, no one is going to search for it, in short, it seems useless... -- Capricorn (talk) 18:34, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
- Lol. How do you know no-one's going to search for it?! How very presumptuous of you. Just earlier today, I was trying to locate the article related to that term. If that redirect had been there, the page at legal ward would have been much easier to find. It's certainly not beyond question that someone else might go through the same process I did. --Defiant (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
To answer your specific question, just seems like few people would type the exact phrase "Ward (law)" into the search box, rolling the dice that it will be disambiguated and will be in that way, instead of simply going for ward and see what happens. Also I mistakenly assumed you were recreating a page I had recently accidentally created instead of getting there completely independently (which incidently does suggest your redirect makes sense). But I guess I struck some (very light) nerve, so just forget I asked. :) I was just curious and don't strongly care, and I have no real problem with that redirect existing. -- Capricorn (talk) 20:29, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Re-revert
I see you reverted my edit to Andoria, but I changed it back again because I'm pretty sure you misinterpreted it. The text I changed and you changed back was this:
- In 2256, Captain Gabriel Lorca pointed out to Michael Burnham that, while journeying on the mycelial network, a traveler might blink and, before they knew it, they had "missed" a visit to the moons of Andoria.
(I changed it to this, which you reverted)
- The moons of Andoria were among the locations experienced in a 2256 demonstration of the possibilities of spore drive.
However, it was Romulus (which we saw right after) that Lorca pointed out might be missed by blinking. Dialog went like this: "Hold tight. Blink: you're in Ilari. Blink: the moons of Andoria. Blink: you missed Romulus." -- Capricorn (talk) 19:55, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Also, this is my mistake for not being more specific, but when I asked for less fingers on the Alice in Wonderland book, I meant before Tilly grabbed it, not after Burnham let go. The replacement image you uploaded has more of the book un-fingered, but there's also less detail to be discerned on the cover. Whereas the moment I'm describing has just as much detail, but still less finger. Sorry to be so pedantic. -- Capricorn (talk) 20:30, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- The view of the book seems clearest in the image I've uploaded. All you're not seeing is a black band at the bottom that simply reads "Carroll". Since it says "Lewis Carroll" on the spine of the book, that's hardly necessary info! I'll upload a version of the Tilly-hand-off view if you can explain/account for the need for 2 views of the book. 1 is fine imho. --Defiant (talk) 11:32, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Not two views, just what I thought was the best view. Your new upload compared to the previous version loses some detail of the cover illustration: look for example at the lower right quadrant of the cover: in the previous image there was some detail still visible, while in the new one it's just a black blur. When last watching the episode I noticed that there was a moment where the cover was had just as much detail as in the original picture, but only one finger obscuring it, that of Burnham. Which I thought was would be an improvement over the original picture, hence the request. Dunno, I personally don't like asking other people for stuff, it was a while since I hit up requested images. And when stuff turns into a hastle like this I admit I wonder what I'm doing wrong. -- Capricorn (talk) 22:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
Discussion
Hi, Do you want to discuss the admin for xfiles wiki Princess Diva? I dug on some stuff that you would not like. — MechQueste talk 21:34, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
on a side note, is there a reason why synopsis is at the top instead of a summary? — MechQueste talk 21:36, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
- Please keep discussion of The X-Files Wiki off this talk page. Instead, try emailing me at defiant@starfleet.com. --Defiant (talk) 21:42, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
I have a question. Why is everything in past tense? — MechQueste talk 02:02, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
Fyi
Your suggested category is created. Tom (talk) 14:48, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification. :) --Defiant (talk) 01:36, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
question about Hatchery script
I'm trying to determine if the Walsh article shows the correct picture. Can you tell me if the Hatchery script identifies Walsh as the crewman who accompanies Trip to the Insectoid ship to retrieve the captain at the end of the episode? --NetSpiker (talk) 00:51, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Can you check the script please? --NetSpiker (talk) 03:57, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Script Question
Hi there and happy new year, hope you're doing good. I've got a script question for you. Near the beginning of TAS: "Once Upon a Planet", just before the Queen of Hearts appears and the plot kicks in, McCoy sees a large house and muses "they just don't make them like that anymore". I'm wondering how that house is described in the script. -- Capricorn (talk) 07:07, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Also, this is a bit wider a query, but it would would be interesting to know how these "drones" were described in the script. The word drone was never used in the episode, which instead tends to use the word robot for various of the planets actors, but these machines themselves remain unnamed. So that page's name probably isn't the best. -- Capricorn (talk) 07:22, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- See talk:Once Upon a Planet (episode) and talk:Robot hovercraft. --Alan (talk) 03:24, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. -- Capricorn (talk) 06:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC) And in a completely unrelated sidenote; the detail in the descriptions in that script is pretty cool. -- Capricorn (talk) 07:06, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Phlox grammar
You've recently reverted my edit of this sentence in Phlox: "That was the first time Phlox had seen that many dead people in one place before." - The before at the end makes no sense to me. Correct me if I'm wrong^^ --36ophiuchi (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
- You're wrong. "Before" is superfluous in this case and doesn't make grammatical sense to me. The former objection is objective whereas the latter is subjective. --Defiant (talk) 09:41, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Klingons in DIS
Hello! I saw that you reverted my additions in AVH background information as "irrelevant". I don't object on the first note, but the second one about Klingon forehead ridges, I think it's not. That episode is chronologically the first appearance of Klingons since ENT: Affliction, which was made as a prelude to the TOS appearance of Klingons. As you are more experienced, I trust your judgment, but I believe you should see to it so at to include a reference in an appropriate way. Thank you for your attention. Tiki Mo'ai (talk) 16:33, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Heads up
I'm afraid I've ended up putting a page of yours up for deletion. -- Capricorn (talk) 20:39, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- Good catch; thanks. :) --Defiant (talk) 23:45, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
FA review project
Hey Defiant. I am currently in the process of going through the FA list with a view to bringing the article's statuses up to date as some of them haven't been looked at for over ten years and have changed quite significantly in that time. Consider it a little project of mine. As an established user, I was hoping I could ask you to keep an eye on the Memory Alpha:Featured article reviews page from time to time and perhaps weigh in on any discussions there to help speed up the review process? I'm not asking you to necessarily agree with anything I post there, just trying to encourage discussion on the subject. Thanks in advance. --| TrekFan Open a channel 17:13, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Conflicts
Just a friendly reminder that we have a page listing Conflicts. If you're going to make more articles on battles and such, you should try to remember linking them there. -- Capricorn (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
- That's great; thanks for the heads-up :) --Defiant (talk) 17:42, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Kudos
You have done great work the Star Trek fandom thanks you (Minister lord vader (talk) 18:48, 22 July 2018 (UTC))
- That's nice of you to say. Thank you. --Defiant (talk) 07:15, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Script question
Hi, hope you're doing well. I've a script question. In the script of "Nothing Human", is the "Chief" in Chief exobiology specialist capitalized? I'm looking at that article and I just have this idea that there's a good possibility that the phrase was wrongly parsed, that when Mosset said "I am Crell Moset, Chief Exobiology specialist Cardassia Prime", he just meant that he was the most prominent/important/authoritive such specialist on the planet. -- Capricorn (talk) 12:36, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- Firstly, sorry for the delay of my reply. Secondly, I'm afraid the script is inconclusive about this issue. Since this line of dialogue was to be garbled (and is garbled in the final version of the episode), the final draft script has Moset's line say, "…Moset…Service… Cardassia Prime… certified… Surgical…" Also, there are no other references to the CES title elsewhere in the script. Thirdly, I'd personally recommend "Chief Exobiology Specialist" or "chief exobiology specialist", for whichever context he meant it. The problem is, we just can't be sure what way he meant it. --Defiant (talk) 15:32, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. That's.... really spectacularly inconclusive. C'est la vie I guess. Also, no need to stress it about delayed replies, I've not really had much time to be here either lately. It happens :) -- Capricorn (talk) 06:08, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Script question
Hey. Maybe you can provide some information to the following: How does the script of "Fortunate Son" call the Nausicaan ships we have as Nausicaan raiders on Memory Alpha? The episode itself only mentions them as "Nausicaan ship". Eaglemoss is listing it as "Nausicaan fighter". We have it as Nausicaan raider. And we have another redirect, "Nausicaan pirate ship". Any description from the script? Thanks for your time. -- Tom (talk) 22:20, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Umm... the script uses both "Nausicaan raiders" and "Nausicaan ships" (no reference to "Nausicaan fighters" though). However, the episode dialogue consistently calls them "Nausicaan ships", so I guess that's what we should opt for. --Defiant (talk) 08:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. :) -- Tom (talk) 09:18, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Incite
Hey. I've worked a bit on the episode "Fortunate Son" and placed an incite tag in the "Story and script" section of the background information. Maybe you can help here and expand this one sentence a bit regarding the differences of the script and the final episode? Any help is appreciated. -- Tom (talk) 00:04, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Wow. What a way to shoot yourself in the foot, Tom! That's self-sabotage to the Nth degree. --Defiant (talk) 06:59, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Denebian whale
Hey, it seems I haven't seen you around much recently, I sure hope you're doing ok. What I'm posting about though is this: do you have a source for that? -- Capricorn (talk) 14:08, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, Capricorn. Honestly, the sheer crapiness of Discovery and the stupidly widely accepted reception of it by fans has been discouraging me from participating here. I'll probably get back to editing more here after DIS S2 concludes. Anyway, the info was told to me privately by my friend Aaron Harvey. --Defiant (talk) 07:00, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Yeah it's a very frustrating series. I'm the stubborn type that hasn't let that discourage me, but you've taken the saner path for sure. Regardless, it would be good to see you back more active here. Thanks for the the clarification, wish there was something more citable, but I guess if there had been, you'd have added a note to the article. -- Capricorn (talk) 12:01, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Image
This image you uploaded needs everything. - Archduk3 05:46, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for bringing this to my attention. I definitely appreciate it, so cheers. :) --Defiant (talk) 10:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Script question no. whatever
Does Delta Flyer II come from any script? Screenshots say it's not on the hull [10]. Limbering up to rename said article Delta Flyer (2377). Also, could you check if Francis Sullivan is thus named in the script; in my opinion it should be the feminine Frances. Thanks in advance--Archer4real (talk) 11:14, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
- Looks like your Qs have been answered on the respective articles' talk pages. --Defiant (talk) 18:13, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
Bgnote cite
Do you have a source for this information? I would guess early script draft, but the Justman note seems to indicate otherwise. --Alan (talk) 20:50, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Good question, but I can hardly believe it's taken three years for you to ask. I'm not inclined to look up info for someone who considers me a "fool", but I'll look into it for the community's sake. --Defiant (talk) 10:56, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
You're not doing it for me, you're doing it for the community. --Alan (talk) 12:16, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
capitalization
Script-query: is Naomi's lengthy alternative title for The Weird Planet Displaced in Time capitalized throughout, as reflected in the article? They boom out distractingly at one--Archer4real (talk) 10:39, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Umm... looks like you got your answer already. --Defiant (talk) 09:24, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
I have, yes; thanks for any efforts you may've made. As well as the answer I also received a lot of unnecessary rubbish. Lovely--Archer4real (talk) 10:12, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
'How' is he described?
Is Richard Chaves' character called a chief in the script? The oh-so-reliable IMDB says he's one. For us his being included in Chief (tribal) hangs in the balance. Thanks--Archer4real (talk) 10:47, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Sorry if flippant title causes offence in current climate, on reflection; not so sorry I'm going to change it. You may--Archer4real (talk) 10:50, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Really?! I see no discussion of this. --Defiant (talk) 00:51, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Anyway, upon investigation, I've found he is indeed referred to as a chief in the script. --Defiant (talk) 00:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you--Archer4real (talk) 09:03, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Script inquiry for "Minefield"
Hi, Does Phlox say pericardium or pericardia? Bluray subtitles say latter; my ears seem to hear the former. Pls let me knowArcher4real (talk) 15:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
- It's "pericardium" in the script. –Defiant (talk) 10:51, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Sky Sorensen
Is there any possibility of getting a follow up on this note ? Without something to go by, like a tangible reference or connection beyond what you say to something else about them, there doesn't otherwise seem to be any way to create a writeup about this actor from the red link you created. That is, unless you yourself write it, because I can think of no other way of finding out who this individual is without a fair amount of guessing. And I'd rather not. –Gvsualan (talk) 05:36, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Yes. There's a photo which includes him on this webpage, where I interviewed the director, Valerie Weiss: [11]. Also, there's his IMDb page here: [12]. I hope this reply message helps, somewhat. –Defiant (talk) 21:57, 28 July 2023 (UTC)